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Apr 22 2014, 09:18 AM Post #1 |
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What do you guys think of Marijuana? Should it be legal? Why? Why not? I'm all for it. Not only would it reduce crime, it also can be used to make things like rope, and I heard you could make paper and even plastic with it, and it is less damaging than alcohol. It is literally impossible to overdose on weed, but we all know what can happen, drinking alcohol and smoking. I think most people against the legalisation of it could be labelled hypocrites. I say this, because I can guarantee you most people against it either smoke, drink, or both. I don't get why people compare cigarettes to the plant anyway. Cigarettes cause cancer, weed relieves pain for cancer patients. There is all that research going on too. I was listening to the radio, and this university had proof that weed effects you, negatively. Needless to say, the words "Pretty sure" and "Pretty confident" came up quite a bit. I wouldn't smoke it, not because I believe it's extremely dangerous, rather because I have no desire too. I have no desire to drink, smoke or do drugs. However, I don't think it's fair that people can smoke and drink, but fans of the plant cannot do drugs. Take booze and cigarettes away, see what happens. It ain't fair. How could a mix of rat poison, paint stripper and a number of other lethal substances mixed into a cigarette be perfectly fine, but smoking a plant with little to no proven negative effects be so evil, so wrong that it's been outlawed? I think it's illegal because of it's potential. I've heard it could replace several materials in the making of certain products (Have to find a list) which would be bad for businesses. Discuss. |
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| Tonneh | Apr 22 2014, 10:11 AM Post #2 |
 
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Never thought of it like that - interesting point Haven't really done much research into the topic, but I'm pretty much all for it as well. But it'd have to be well regulated in some way, probably taxed somehow. Would also need a special permit to grow / harvest / sell etc. Doesn't it mess up your memory with over use? Booze does too and I s'pose that's legal. The 'scientific research' for both sides seems to have contrasting opinions.. From: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/health-benefits-of-medical-marijuana-2014-4#it-may-help-reverse-the-carcinogenic-effects-of-tobacco-and-improve-lung-health-2 According to a study published in Journal of the American Medical Association in January 2012, marijuana does not impair lung function and can even increase lung capacity. Researchers looking for risk factors of heart disease tested the lung function of 5115 young adults over the course of 20 years. Tobacco smokers lost lung function over time, but pot users actually showed an increase in lung capacity. To: http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/the-harmful-effects.html Marijuana smoke contains 50% to 70% more cancer-causing substances than tobacco smoke. One major research study reported that a single cannabis joint could cause as much damage to the lungs as up to five regular cigarettes smoked one after another. Long-time joint smokers often suffer from bronchitis, an inflammation of the respiratory tract. |
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Apr 22 2014, 10:29 AM Post #3 |
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It can alter ones view on reality whilst "stoned", but I haven't seen any concrete evidence it's as bad as beer and cigarettes. Obama himself even said that it's "No worse than Alcohol". The research for weed is pretty split. I think it's because some who are researching it go into it with a bias opinion, looking to prove that it's bad. That isn't proper science, that's pseudoscience. |
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| EMIYA | Apr 22 2014, 01:17 PM Post #4 |
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Alcohol, cigarettes and fat people falling on small people...kills thousands of people directly per year. Deaths caused by cannabis use...zero. Alcohol, cigarettes and fat people...shows a huge negative effects not only on the individuals but on others in the society as well, once more two of these are the leading causes of deaths in the U.S. itself. Cananbis...used for medical treatment of which negative effects pale in comparison to the usage of alcohol and cigarettes both on a personal and social level. Clearly this weed stuff is very dangerous and we shouldn't legalize it. Now that Meth and Crack I've heard about, that sounds like it would be good. Put that up in the kids sections. Sell it at Mcdonalds as a Happy Meal toy. I don't do MJ but when you've got something that is clearly less dangerous that something that is legal is well...questioning. I think the only reason we treat MJ the way it is simply because that's how we've been taught. All those drug shows or D.A.R.E or whatever the heck it was you guys had puts drugs into this overall broad category of "If you do these, you will die and so you should never do them or else your butt will fall off. Cannabis has negative effects, but its very obvious that those negative effects don't amount to a huge deal especially compared to the other drugs. But we seem to have this thing going on where we like to shove all the drugs into this broad category of just plain "Evil Satan Drugs" especially since until relatively recently, the idea of cannabis was highly misunderstood. Some of you may have seen that movie, Reefer Madness in the 1930s I believe that showed cannabis use as this insane, psychotic murder drug that made people do insane things, run over people and jump out windows. And we look at that now and laugh because its a highly an incorrect notion. But its not until recently that this point has started to come across and cannabis is starting to be seen less as this "Killer Drug" and more to what it actually is. It may not be overwhelmingly positive but I'd sure take it over 95% of the drugs we do have. |
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Apr 22 2014, 01:52 PM Post #5 |
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I agree with you Brofist, but zero deaths caused by marijuana use? Really? What about all those people who get high, drive, and kill someone? That number is bound to be pretty high. Same with alcohol. |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Apr 22 2014, 02:21 PM Post #6 |
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legalize it canada why? cause i want to smoke some its not a terrible drug, u can make money off it ect.... |
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| EMIYA | Apr 22 2014, 03:15 PM Post #7 |
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I intended to use the word "Primary Cause" but apparently I forgot to put that. But even this number only reaches up into the very low hundreds (300) maximum deaths and this information is often questioned and still being looked into. Now let's look at alcohol. The deaths caused by over dosage is around 80,000+ people per years. This is just from excessive alcohol consumption alone. Now compare that 80,000+ to the Primary Zero for MJ. And I'm not making that number up, I was surprised to see that number before too. Now compare drunk driving deaths which numbers in the what 150,000 per year I believe to the debatable 300 deaths per year from MJ as a secondary suspect. There is definitely a lesser of the two evils here. |
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Apr 22 2014, 03:17 PM Post #8 |
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Yeah, I'm sure there is a lesser of two evils so to speak, but it can still indirectly cause death. I don't know about you, but I drove once while high and thought that the gas pedal was the brake.  Of course, I think that both marijuana and alcohol should be legal. There's no sane reason not to legalize it. |
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| lunar2 | Apr 22 2014, 03:55 PM Post #9 |
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there is plenty good reason to make alcohol illegal. it is a disinhibitor. it makes you do things you normally wouldn't do. alcohol isn't just dangerous to the user, it is dangerous to the people around them, as well. weed, on the other hand, makes you hungry and lazy. how do you hurt someone while sprawled on the couch with a bag of doritos? weed does not cause reckless or violent behavior like alcohol does. |
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Apr 22 2014, 06:17 PM Post #10 |
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More deaths are probably due to how dangerous the distribution of weed is, people killing people over it. If anything should be illegal, cigarettes are the way to go IMO. It's literally poison, and causes so many problems far more than weed. Edited by GrooseStrikesBack, Apr 22 2014, 06:18 PM.
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Apr 22 2014, 06:49 PM Post #11 |
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It depends on the person. Substances like these affects everyone differently. For example, weed affects me much more than alcohol, so if I were to drive high it would be more dangerous than me driving drunk. Weed doesn't make everyone "lazy." I know plenty of people who act giddy and active while high. |
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| + Pelador | Apr 22 2014, 07:00 PM Post #12 |
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Maybe I'm wrong about this but I get the impression that it's much more of a big deal in the US than it is in the UK. |
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| SSJ | Apr 22 2014, 07:01 PM Post #13 |
 
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I know a lot of people in my home land consider it a "gateway drug" (something I have seen firsthand through family), and that it can lead into getting into some harder drugs. However that isn't the debate. The drug is harmless as far as I'm concerned so I don't see why it shouldn't be legalized. The user just needs to act responsibly, which is the exact same as when you take a drink of alcohol. |
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| + Steve | Apr 22 2014, 07:10 PM Post #14 |
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I've never heard of people getting giddy on marijuana OFG are you sure it was that? Because there are different kinds of high, typically MJ only really makes people chill out. Yeah in the UK it's only dealers that seem to get punished for it, I see people smoking it all the time and loads of people reek of it but they'll walk past the police and they don't really care, if you commit a crime and have some on you it's bad but just to have it nobody seems to care. People don't look down on each other for smoking it either it's well recognized that cig's are far worse and everyone loves alcohol because most of us are depressed  I think it could definitely be legalized here easier than America fully. I just don't see why a lot of America is so against it compared to how overwhelmingly unhealthy in comparison other things like cig's, alcohol and fast food are. "It gives you cancer!" *said whilst eating KFC bargain bucket* Too much sun gives people cancer too why don't we make the sun illegal. |
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Apr 22 2014, 07:16 PM Post #15 |
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Idk man, I've seen people act pretty weird while high. Granted I've been surrounded by lots of weirdos for most of my life.
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